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INTERVIEW CONTINUED Jim Bouton 20:35 I think that's a clue into the insight here. What he really hasn't. You see, he played some football in college, but he really never made it to the pros. And I think he's a very he's a frustrated athlete. And I think this is his his attempt to play for the New York Yankees or at that level Robert Lipsyte 20:50 when you're in his box. Bill is his body English. He's moving with the pitches with Bill Fugazi 20:56 every play. By the way, you're wrong, john, I mean, he may not have been a pro football player. He's a very good athlete. He was a top runner. He competed in Melrose games. And he's a good athlete, and boy, you know, he's no puss. I mean, he's a tough guy. He's not, he doesn't need anyone to protect them or be around him. Jim Bouton 21:14 he punched somebody in an elevator once, didn't he. I mean, how many grown men get into a fight in an elevator Robert Lipsyte 21:20 here, he got both wearing New York Yankee World Series ring, right? He earned his Well, you earned yours too. You're a friend of George's. Bill Fugazi 21:29 that's one of the great pleasures of my life. Let me just say this to you. As far as the elevator goes, Jim Bouton 21:33 you're not exactly an objective. Bill Fugazi 21:37 I'll criticize George when he has to be criticized. But I mean, you mentioned the elevator. I happen to know about that incident. George was attacked in New York was they were booing New York and the guys were drunk. They wouldn't didn't even want their names printed. The George swing and well, you know, George wasn't a heavyweight champion. Well, maybe he doesn't have to throw a punch. I tell him he should throw it for the gut, not for the head. But that's neither here nor there. You can say what you want you can be for George's moves. You can be against George's will. George Steinbrenner does one good thing after another for this city, for this state for this country, for charities, more than anyone knows, just talked to the coach at Grambling. They didn't have any money, George flew to team to play a game for them. No one prints that stuff, just what he does for the police and fire in New York. I know what he does. I see the operations that he pays for, Robert Lipsyte 22:31 let's say bottom line. I mean, as our season opens, his season is ending in the Yankees have not done well? That's right. We had a bad year. We had a bad year. Oh, yeah, you your Yankees are Bill Fugazi 22:42 I'm a Yankee all my life. I've been going to the stadium with my Father, Lord, have mercy on him since I was six or seven years old. So Robert Lipsyte 22:49 well, your Yankee too. Do you say we know I don't. How do you fit the end of the season? Well, yeah, it's fine. You're glad that the Yankees are losing aren't you? Jim Bouton 22:58 Well, I think No, no, I wouldn't say I'm glad I just I don't feel that it's a tragedy that the Yankees aren't winning, because they think that if the fans are honest about it, they'll realize that the Yankees have won more than their share of pennants metric. They've won 20 World Champions, I figured it out 20 World Championships and in approximately 80 years that baseball has been played. And if you feel if you if you realize that every team in the major leagues is entitled to win one World Championship, there should be one every 26 years. So by those rather by that calculation, the Yankees are not due to win a World Championship until the year 2474. Because cubs gotta win a whole bunch that you know, I mean, the Minnesota boy. So Robert Lipsyte 23:39 Bob has a philosophy of balance of nature. Prof Bob Gurland 23:42 I think that one thing is true. I think that the fans in the main do expect at times the teams to lose. And I think you know that they don't really necessarily hold George accountable for the fact that the team is losing. What they don't like is really his style. And his his his focus on Celebrity was interesting. I did a quick experiment in one of my classes this morning, I asked my class if there are any students in the class who had no interest in sport and baseball whatsoever. 20 of them raise their hand, all 20 knew who Steinbrenner was and all 20 of them could pick them out of a police lineup. I asked them who was the owner of the New York Mets equally loved and equally adored. Not a single one of those 20 knew the owner of the Mets and I think that's rather interesting, because it indicates somehow how Steinbrenner has placed himself. Visa v vie fan in New York
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Source | Historic Films |
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Link | View details on Historic Films site |
File | NT-3225 @ 01:20:34 |
Reel Summary | The Eleventh Hour, Show #225 Title: Steinbrenner (aka "the Boss") Guests: Jim Bouton, Former Pitcher, Author, Sportscaster; Robert Guerland, Philosophy Professor NYU; Father James DiGiacomo, Jesuit Priest; Bill Fugazi, Businssm and and good Friend of Steinbenner. Rec: 9/21/89 Description: The Eleventh Hour interview with people who knew and worked with George Steinbrenner,AKA the Boss, controversial principal owner and managing partner of Major League Baseball team, New York Yankees; and CEO of American Shipbuilding Corp. Scenes from the unofficial "George Must Go Banner Contest". |
Description | INTERVIEW CONTINUED Jim Bouton 20:35 I think that's a clue into the insight here. What he really hasn't. You see, he played some football in college, but he really never made it to the pros. And I think he's a very he's a frustrated athlete. And I think this is his his attempt to play for the New York Yankees or at that level Robert Lipsyte 20:50 when you're in his box. Bill is his body English. He's moving with the pitches with Bill Fugazi 20:56 every play. By the way, you're wrong, john, I mean, he may not have been a pro football player. He's a very good athlete. He was a top runner. He competed in Melrose games. And he's a good athlete, and boy, you know, he's no puss. I mean, he's a tough guy. He's not, he doesn't need anyone to protect them or be around him. Jim Bouton 21:14 he punched somebody in an elevator once, didn't he. I mean, how many grown men get into a fight in an elevator Robert Lipsyte 21:20 here, he got both wearing New York Yankee World Series ring, right? He earned his Well, you earned yours too. You're a friend of George's. Bill Fugazi 21:29 that's one of the great pleasures of my life. Let me just say this to you. As far as the elevator goes, Jim Bouton 21:33 you're not exactly an objective. Bill Fugazi 21:37 I'll criticize George when he has to be criticized. But I mean, you mentioned the elevator. I happen to know about that incident. George was attacked in New York was they were booing New York and the guys were drunk. They wouldn't didn't even want their names printed. The George swing and well, you know, George wasn't a heavyweight champion. Well, maybe he doesn't have to throw a punch. I tell him he should throw it for the gut, not for the head. But that's neither here nor there. You can say what you want you can be for George's moves. You can be against George's will. George Steinbrenner does one good thing after another for this city, for this state for this country, for charities, more than anyone knows, just talked to the coach at Grambling. They didn't have any money, George flew to team to play a game for them. No one prints that stuff, just what he does for the police and fire in New York. I know what he does. I see the operations that he pays for, Robert Lipsyte 22:31 let's say bottom line. I mean, as our season opens, his season is ending in the Yankees have not done well? That's right. We had a bad year. We had a bad year. Oh, yeah, you your Yankees are Bill Fugazi 22:42 I'm a Yankee all my life. I've been going to the stadium with my Father, Lord, have mercy on him since I was six or seven years old. So Robert Lipsyte 22:49 well, your Yankee too. Do you say we know I don't. How do you fit the end of the season? Well, yeah, it's fine. You're glad that the Yankees are losing aren't you? Jim Bouton 22:58 Well, I think No, no, I wouldn't say I'm glad I just I don't feel that it's a tragedy that the Yankees aren't winning, because they think that if the fans are honest about it, they'll realize that the Yankees have won more than their share of pennants metric. They've won 20 World Champions, I figured it out 20 World Championships and in approximately 80 years that baseball has been played. And if you feel if you if you realize that every team in the major leagues is entitled to win one World Championship, there should be one every 26 years. So by those rather by that calculation, the Yankees are not due to win a World Championship until the year 2474. Because cubs gotta win a whole bunch that you know, I mean, the Minnesota boy. So Robert Lipsyte 23:39 Bob has a philosophy of balance of nature. Prof Bob Gurland 23:42 I think that one thing is true. I think that the fans in the main do expect at times the teams to lose. And I think you know that they don't really necessarily hold George accountable for the fact that the team is losing. What they don't like is really his style. And his his his focus on Celebrity was interesting. I did a quick experiment in one of my classes this morning, I asked my class if there are any students in the class who had no interest in sport and baseball whatsoever. 20 of them raise their hand, all 20 knew who Steinbrenner was and all 20 of them could pick them out of a police lineup. I asked them who was the owner of the New York Mets equally loved and equally adored. Not a single one of those 20 knew the owner of the Mets and I think that's rather interesting, because it indicates somehow how Steinbrenner has placed himself. Visa v vie fan in New York |
Genre | 1980s NEWS |
Color | color |
Year | 1989 |